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Post by Steve » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:11 pm

Greetings all, difficult times going forward around the world as New Zealand moves toward shutting down all except essential services -

Stay safe, look after each other, and then tie some flies!!



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Post by Maniototoflyfisher » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:18 pm

Hi Steve - are you self isolating at the Flyshop so being a "essential industry" you can still courier supplies so we can "tie some flies" while we're in isolation ?? 🙃 Not even sure if we're allowed to go solo fishing while in Level 4 ?



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Post by fraser hocks » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:12 am

Iv been looking into this Dave. Looks like fishing on your own, or with only other members of your household is allowed while at level 4? Well thats the advice the Ministry of Health is advising.


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Post by Dave » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:06 am

Fish & Game are working on this
https://fishandgame.org.nz/covid-19-information/
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Post by fraser hocks » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:45 pm

Yeah I heard about that, yet the ministry of health say it's ok to go fishing at level 4. I'd say MOH trump's F&G's advise on this.

It's about mitigating exposure to others. If I go fishing it will be with the internet on not having any contact with anyone, which is what we all need to do. Remember at level 4 you are still allowed to go to the supermarket which must exposes too far more social contact than anything else.


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Post by SuperJack.10 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:56 pm

Hi Fraser - where did you see MoH’s advice about being permissible at Level 4?



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Post by Steve » Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:47 pm

Just saw that F&G advice too - that's a bugger!

Shop's closed to - deemed not an essential service for some reason... who makes these rules :)

We can tie flies though!!



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Post by fraser hocks » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:56 am

There are lots of opinions swirling around but here is some information which is sound and verifiable. This comes to us from Clarke Gayford who has taken the time to make sure the information is correct. Please play by the rules.

*Sorry for the delay everyone I wanted to get this fishing advice approved so its all legit, as follows*

NZ is moving to Covid alert level 4 at 11:59pm On Weds 25th March for 4 weeks. If you need details on what level 4 means you will find everything here: https://covid19.govt.nz
There are strict rules around home isolation, but people are allowed out.
The first thing you need to ask yourself is, does my trip out put lives at risk through the spread of infection? If we get this wrong the quarantine will extend, we have 1 shot at wrestling control back from the terrible alternative, which is the estimated death of tens of thousands of NZers. This ******* of a virus can be transmitted by people who may not feel sick, yes that could mean you.

So what does that mean for fishing?
After seeking advice the following are guidelines so far, but this is a fast evolving situation and could change if we see a spike in infections, or people not obeying instructions.

You are allowed out, which means you are allowed out fishing solo, so solo boat or kayak or jet ski missions, or shore dives are all acceptable. However it’s vital to remember that the virus can live for up to 72 hours on surfaces, so if you touch communal things like wash down hoses, railings on pontoons at boat ramps, then this is a risk and needs to be avoided at all costs, I'd recommend taking hand sanitizer for use after launch/retrieve. For example parks will be open but will have all children’s play equipment closed, so common surfaces around boating need to be treated the same.

Likewise if you turn up at a wharf and there are others fishing you must maintain a space of two metres minimum. In these situations commonsense needs to be applied and if there is a crowd just leave, it’s not worth it.

Surfcasting off beaches is fine but with space and only distant contact with others.

Can you fish with others?
Yes but ONLY the people you have isolated with. These are the people inside your bubble for the next month. That means they can travel in the car with you and so can go on a boat with you. You CANNOT invite a brother/neighbour/aunty out on your fishing trips if they are not in isolation with you. The 2m rule does not work on boats as you will share common surfaces and space where the virus can live.

If you get caught out doing this, not only do you risk cross infection which could dangerously extend contagion out past the 4 week circuit breaker, but you risk getting fishing trips shut down altogether like they have done in Miami, where they have now stopped all recreational boating. Maybe it’s a good excuse to finally get that partner out for a fish??

There is a huge amount of trust and proper kiwi community spirit and cooperation required to get this right for all of us, we are all in this together.

Good luck out there, stay safe and here's to 5 knot variables in the weeks ahead,

-Clarke


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Post by Dave » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:42 pm

Hi Fraser
Where did you get that from?
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Post by Johnno » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:12 pm

Well he is, according to his missus, dead wrong.

Frankly we ALL must obey the rules. Which is “ stay in the bubble” and only go out for exercise in the neighbourhood.. only use your vehicle for getting food and meds etc. which means no fishing.. simple as that.

If someone fails to follow that simple set of rules then they are idiots and frankly arrogant..



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